Hi, Joanne,
Here is the Hopkins info I have from various census reports:
1850, Ft. Edward, Washington Co., NY
Charles H. Squires, 26, laborer, born NY
Sarah Squires, 28
Charles Squires, 6
Sara J. Squires, 3
Fayette Squires, 1
(Charles was Elcey Hopkins Green's son from her first marriage)
Dwelling #234
Martin Hopkins [jr.], 52, laborer, born NY [bro. of Elcy HOPKINS, above]
Sabina Hopkins, 54, born Canada
Ebenezer Hopkins, 17, born NY
1855, Ft. Edward
Phebe Hopkins, 55
Joseph H. Hopkins, son, 20
Daniel B. Hopkins son, 16
(Phebe Hopkins was Martin Hopkins, Sr.'s, 2nd wife)
1860, Alamo Township, Kalamazoo County, MI
Dwelling 1135
Eli D. Hopkins, 35, farmer, born NY
Mary (BRAYMAN) Hopkins, 33, born NY
Irene Hopkins, 15, born NY
Ezra Hopkins, 12, born MI
?ariette Hopkins, 10, born MI
Otis Hopkins, 7, born MI
Adeline Hopkins, 3, born MI
El???, Hopkins, 18, born NY
Amos Brayman, 18, born NY
Jane E. Brayman, 28, born NY
Amos Brayman was my great grandfather, and Mary Hopkins was his sister. I'm not sure who Jane Brayman is. She could be a sister, but I don't have her name anywhere else.
[1860 Census]
Dwelling 1636
Enoch (not sure) Hopkins, 80, born NY [b. abt. 1770]
Sarah Hopkins, 28, born PA
Ebenizer Hopkins, 27, born NY
Martin Hopkins, 61, born NY
Sabra Hopkins, 65
Do any of these ages match with your Hopkins family? You didn't give the date of birth for Eli. This Eli would have been born about 1825. I haven't had a chance to look at your web site yet but will try to get to it this weekend.
Thanks for contacting me.
Karen
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Braman Family, Washington Co, NY
Posted by: Karen [Quackenbush]
Date: October 09, 1998 at 11:13:33
Amos BRAMAN is my paternal great grandfather. His obituary states that he was born 11 October 1842 in Washington Co. NY., son of Seth and Dorcas (GREEN) BRAMAN. Seth BRAMAN, who was a farmer and was "reared and married in that state." Seth and Dorcas had eight children (order unknown except Amos was last): Hannah, Assel, Mary, Ann, Jim, Olive, Sabrey, and Amos. Dorcas died when Amos was 2˝ old. He then went to live with his married sister (which one unknown). They moved to Kalamazoo, Mich., when he was about 5 years old. I assume Dorcas would have
died about April, 1843, according to Amos' birth date. Amos married Nancy FISH 4 July 1863 in Kalamazoo. They moved with Nancy's family to Crawford Co., WI.
I've received info that Dorcas GREEN was the daughter of Asahel and Christiana (WORDEN) GREEN of the Town of Ft. Edward, Washington Co. Christiana died in 1820 and Asahel then married Elcey Hopkins (no children). He died ion 1852.
The name is sometimes spelled Breyman or Braman.
The Bramans are an elusive bunch. Does anyone have any info on any ancestors or descendants of anyone other than Amos. I'm happy to share info I have on Amos.
(4.)
BRAMAN - FISH posted by Karen Quackenbush
I also received the following information from someone who is descended from the same line as DORCAS GREEN (Seth's wife). ASAHEL and CHRISTIANA (Worden) GREEN were married in the Town of Ft. Edward, Washington, Aug 2, 1798 by Matthias Ogden (The Fort Edward Book, Robert O. Bascom,
1903) Christiana died Nov 15, 1820, and is buried in the Hopkins
Cemetery in Argyle, NY. Asahel then married ELCEY HOPKINS [Elsie]. Asahel died
Sept 16, 1852. Asahel & Christiana had the following children:
Thomas
James (married Mary Hopkins)
Lucinda (married Pegleg Burgess)
Mary (Polly) (married James Austin)
Dorcas (married Seth Breyman
Olive (married Cornelius Breyman)
Christina (married Daniel Osborn/James Doritz)
Sabra (married John Fuller)
Asahel (married Mariam Hopkins)
John (married Sally Niles)
1850 & 1854 Michigan Census
Hopkins, Asahel MI Kalamazoo Co, Kalamazoo Village 005 1850
Hopkins, Asahel MI Kalamazoo Co, Kalamazoo Village 1854
Hopkins, Daniel MI Kalamazoo Co, Brady 203 1850
Hopkins, Daniel MI Kalamazoo Co, Brady 1854
Hopkins, Eli MI Kalamazoo Co, Kalamazoo Village 006 1850
Hopkins, Eli MI Kalamazoo Co, Kalamazoo Village 1854
Hopkins, Enoch MI Kalamazoo Co, Kalamazoo Village 006 1850
Hopkins, Enoch MI Kalamazoo Co, Kalamazoo Village 1854
Hopkins, George MI Kalamazoo Co, Charleston 257 1850
Hopkins, George MI Kalamazoo Co, Charleston 1854
Hopkins, Matthew MI Kalamazoo Co, Kalamazoo Village 005 1850
Hopkins, Matthew MI Kalamazoo Co, Kalamazoo Village 1854
Hopkins, Rosidar MI Kalamazoo Co, Prairie Ronde 163 1850
Hopkins, Rosidar MI Kalamazoo Co, Prairie Ronde 1854
Hopkins, Semantha MI Kalamazoo Co, Comstock 279 1850
Hopkins, Semantha MI Kalamazoo Co, Comstock 1854
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MORE INTRIQUE...
from Oakland County Michigan Vital Records 1800-1917
These folks are all accounted for;
Cornelius BRAYMAN, Sr.
[believed to be the son of Mary FULLER BRAYMAN]
wife, Olive (GREEN) BRAYMAN
son, Cornelius BRAYMAN, Jr.
son, George W. BRAYMAN
wife, Mary J. Buck
daughter, Olivia BRAYMAN
So...who's this?
Name: BRAMAN, Cornelius H. Birth: 1822 Birth Place: Ft Edwards, Washington co., NY Spouse: Helen R. RUNNELLS Marriage Place: Birmingham, MI
Marriage Date: Feb 28, 1882 Residence: Birmingham, MI Occupation: Carpenter [see MARRIAGE RECORD below]
Name: RUNNELLS, Helen R. Birth: 1829 Birth Place: New York Spouse: Cornelius H. BRAMAN Marriage Place: Birmingham, MI Marriage Date: Feb 28, 1882 Residence: Birmingham, MI Comments: First Husband: Mr. HUNT
Now, to stir the pot...there is a Thomas RENNELS, who gave a deposition for Varsell FULLER's pension application.
County of Wayne
State of New York
}ss Personaly appears before this subscriber a justice of the peace in and for Said County Thomas Rennals of the town of Lyons in Said County age [or aged] ninty one years. after being duly Sworn according to law deposith and saith that for the last Forty five years he has been personaly acquainted with VARSEL FULLER late a soldier in the war of the Revolution and a Pensioner of the United States: And with his present widow MARY FULLER and this(?) Family: That this(?) said MARY FULLER who is applying for a pension as the widow of the said Varsel FULLER, is the identical person and widow of the said VARSEL FULLER, the late pensioner of the United States: That this is the identical person that was his wife of said VARSEL FULLER at the first acquaintance of this deponent. This deponent is confident that his aquaintance with said family of VARSEL FULLER commenced before the year Eighteen hundred - That at the time of his first acquaintance with said family he will recollect that their oldest child named was MARY - That she was at that time a full grown woman. Thinks she must have been nineteen or twenty years old. That she has since married a man by the name of BRAMAN. That their next child named was CORNELIUS who was two or three years younger than MARY. That the present applicant widow MARY FULLER has from the first acquaintance of this deponent been considered and believed to be the wife of the above named VARSEL FULLER, and the above named MARY and CORNELIUS has been and still are considered children of the above named VARSEL FULLER and the person appicant widow MARY FULLER.
This deponent further asaith(?) and saith that his acquaintance with said Family commenced in the town of Argyle, Washington County, State of New York; That the understood(?) by this said VARSEL FULLER, (inserted above what looks like 'Mrs.') they(?) had formerly iived in the town of Stilwater, Saratoga Co., where he was married. That the said VARSEL FULLER died sometime in the year 1834 that his widow had not since remarried but remains a widow.
Signed, Thomas X Rennels [possibly spelled Reynolds or Runnels?]
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SOME MORE STUFF.....
MICHIGAN MARRIAGES FROM 1840-1899
BRAMAN, CORNELIUS H. m. HUNT, HELLEN R. 28/02/1882 Oakland Co
BRAMAN, HENRY m. DOWLING, MIRANDA 25/12/1867
BRAMAN, JAMES m. FREYERSMITH, MARY F. 14/01/1868 Kent Co.
BRAMAN, JESSE m. QUICK, MARY 02/10/1855
BRAMAN, SAMUEL m. BRIDGEWATER, ANNA HAINES 24/12/1851
BRAMAN, STEPHEN M. m. BRAMAN, REBECCA G. 28/06/1858 Branch Co.
BRAMEN, JOSEPH m. LAPHAM, ELIZA S. 08/03/1865
BRAMAN, LIBY C. m. MAKES, ELIAS 11 Oct 1873 Branch Co.
BRAMEN, JOSEPH m. LAPHAM, ELIZA S. 8 Mar 1865 Jackson Co.
Hillsdale Co, MI
BRAYMAN, JOHN T. m. BOWLES, MARY 15 Apr 1865
BRAYMAN, VANRENSELLAER m. HAWS, ANNA 19 Dec 1854
BRAMAN, LODEMA m. RODGERS, WILLIAM 25 Dec 1859
BRAMAN, MARY A. m. WHEELER, GEORGE B. 8 Nov 1854
BRAMIN, JULIA m. COURTRIGHT, JAMES 2 Dec 1865
BRAMEN, MARIA m. POUND, JACOB 17 Sep 1861
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CIVIL WAR
Found on Ancestry.com
Jesse A. BRAYMAN
Enlisted Aug. 29, 1864 from Marshall, Michigan, at 29 yrs old into D Co. 28th Inf. Reg. MI
Thomas BRAYMAN Jan 18, 1864 enlisted from Ransom into F Co., 27th Inf. Reg. Mi [I ordered his Pension Records. Nothing conclusive. He didn't marry and has no children. No mention of his family and no affidavits from family. Update: now identified as the son of Thomas b. 1807 and Ann (Baker) Brayman]
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MEN WHO SERVED IN WAR OF 1812 (from Wayne Co., NY.
pg. 221
Thomas HOPKINS Sodus (our Thomas)
pg. 107 (Military History, cont.)
Simeon Kent came from Long Island to Palmyra and was the father of Mrs. Stephen HOPKINS of Sodus, buried in Rural Cemetery, Sodus Village, Wayne Co, NY.
DRAFTED(pg. 486) Made May 15, 1865
Jeremiah D. BRAYMAN
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MORE ODD INFO.....
Burr Oak Cemetery - St. Joseph Co, Michigan
Brayman, Thomas....VET, Lot 14, born 24 September 1831,[sic] died 1903,[sic] Civil War, Co. F., 27th Michigan Infantry......from papers of Geneva Smith"
Found at http://members.tripod.com/~tfred/boobitb.html
Titled "Burr Oak, St. Joseph County-Obituary B"
Brayman, Thomas......edition date..... 10 March 1904
From Burr Oak Cemetery http://members.tripod.com/~tfred/cemburrs1.html
"Shaw, Admethus M......Lot 14, Sec 3, born 1822, died 24 March 1890....Note: day and month of the death date from the papers of Geneva Smith. She also has the first name spelled Admetus."
"Shaw, Sarah (Brayman)...Lot 14, Sec 3, born 1837, died 1904.....Note: surname Brayman from the papers of Geneva Smith."
"Shaw, William....Lot 14, Sec 3, born 1862, died 1929......Note: year of birth from the papers of Geneva Smith."
"Shaw, Cora Bell....Lot 14, Sec 3, buried 12 September 1941, lived in Bronson twp, widow, 75 years, born 1866, died 10 September 1941....Note: year of birth and death date from the papers of Geneva Smith. Also, Geneva says that Cora Bell was the daughter of Chester Tisdal."
"Shaw, Kenneth...Lot 14, Sec 3, born 1904, died 1907"
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.......From Loma Wilkins
John Fuller and Sabra Green married and had:
Enos Fuller
Ezra Fuller
Enos Fuller married Sarah Ann Green, dau of Asahel, Jr. and Mariam Hopkins Green
Ezra Fuller married Christina Green, dau of Asahel, Jr. and Mariam Hopkins Green
Enos and Sarah Ann (Green) Fuller had:
Helen d. young
Eddie
Eddie Fuller married Eva Gullick, dau of Christina and Sarah Ann Green's sister, Elsie Jane and Wm. Gullick
Thank God, Eva and Eddie adopted their children!!
I also found in the 1850 Federal census for German, Chenango County, NY (which is where the Greens came to from Washington County) that John Fuller, age 46, a joiner, was living in the household of Ezra and Christina Fuller, and next door to Enos and SarahAnn Fuller. In the German cemetery there is a stone bearing this inscription: John Fuller d. May 27 1868. Aged 66 years,
1 month, 22 days. Not exactly right for a birthdate of Feb 1800, is it? But it could easily be Ezra and Enos's father. The stone is near the Greens.
I guess I should give you all of Asahel, Jr and Mariam Hopkins Green's children:
1. Orin Green b. 17 Apr 1823 m. (1) 12 Apr 1843 Lavina Niles, (2) 16 Apr 1849 Jane Julana Niles [sisters] (3) Almedia Abbott
2. Elsie Jane Green b. 22 Aug 1825 m. (1.) Richard Gillett, (2) William Gullick
3. Christina Green b. 19 Jan 1828 m. 22 May 1844 Ezra Fuller
4. Sarah Ann Green b. 4 Oct 1830 in Sodus, Wayne Co, NY. m. 31 Dec 1844 Enos Fuller
5. Mathew Hopkins Green b. 7 Apr 1838. m. 3 Jul 1856 Amelia Ford
#1, Orin Green was my gr-gr grandfather. He married the 3rd wife when he was 60 and she was about 17! The youngest child of that marriage is still alive and well in German, NY, as she was born when Orin was 84 and she's now 95.
Loma Wilkins
HOPKINS, BRAYMAN/BRAMAN's & GREEN's
in the HOPKINS CEMETERY
Argyle, Washington Co, New York